Standing Ovation for Alegre

I know the rules say no calling out other diarists, but I think it's about time we stood up as a group and acknowledged the efforts of one person, in particular-- Alegre.

There's nothing more noble than laying your heart on the line for a candidate you believe in, and working yourself to the bone for them day after day.  There's nothing more painful than absorbing a never-ending stream of verbal abuse from the supporters of your candidate's opponents.  

It takes real courage, leadership, and leather-tough skin to take all that and keep going, staying positive and upbeat no matter what the circumstances.

Most of us have experienced the crushing angst of watching our favorite candidate come up short in the final tally.  For me, it was first Al Gore, then Howard Dean, then John Edwards, and now Hillary Clinton.  I can't ever seem to win-- but that's another story for a different day.

On a personal level, it isn't winning that's important.  It's working as hard as you possibly can for what you believe in, standing up to the powers that be, and looking out for the interests of those who are less fortunate or less capable than you.  That's what defines our humanity.

No matter what the headlines were each day, I knew that I could come here and be re-inspired by Alegre's diaries.  I could get my daily dose of optimistic energy, in a sea full of negativity.  

To me, Alegre is a shining example of what is still good in American politics.  

And for that, I salute her.



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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 17)

I had no problem whatsoever with Alegre's positive points about Senator Clinton... she did her candidate a service by posting them...

My problem was with the gratuitous jabs at Obama that usually accompanied her diaries... that tended to earn her the wrath of the Obama supporters, which lead to the comments to which you refer.


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 03:48:50 PM EST

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 13)

When Alegra posts a diary in support of Obama, I'll forgive her screeds...not before.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:19:27 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 2)

This diary has nothing to do with unity.

It's about committment, hard work, and leadership.

No matter what she does next, she deserves recognition for that, alone.

You may disagree, but nobody's forcing you to post here.


by leisure on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:23:31 PM EST
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Sorry (1.87 / 8)

Getting someplace involves two things:  Horsepower and Steering.  

No doubt she had "Horsepower."  Quite a few people have that.  

It's what someone chooses to do with Horsepower that demonstrates "Steering" ability or occasionally the lack of it.

Do you seriously want me to praise her BIG engine, when her "driving" was terrible at times?


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:29:34 PM EST
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Re: Sorry (2.00 / 1)

Go away please.  :)


by leisure on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:30:49 PM EST
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Re: Sorry (2.00 / 2)

No.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:31:59 PM EST
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Re: Sorry (none / 0)

Welcome to the united Democratic party.

All Democrats working together as one happy family.

:P

Not even close.

Uhm is this what you're hearing when Sen. Obama says the word "inclusive"?


by 12 dogs and a blog on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 12:54:22 AM EST
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Re: Sorry (2.00 / 3)

I respect Cheney for his relentless work ethic. I ask why good people don't seem to work as hard as the evil people? Maybe it is because they take the time to examine the consequences of their work. alegre and Cheney have inspired me to work harder and the good people have inspired me to be more aware of what I do.


by ImpeachBushCheney on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:02:08 PM EST
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Re: Sorry (1.80 / 10)

Then don't write diaries praising someone who personally insulted many of the users of this site.  Its one thing to be pro-Hillary, its another to LIE and make it personal.  She did that on a daily basis.  She and SusanHU (and I always wondered if they were one and the same) were two of the worst examples of Hillary supporters on here.  It was a TRAVESTY that the admins did nothing about it for months.  Had Bowers been here, she would have been gone... very quickly.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 06:11:23 PM EST
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Re: Sorry (none / 0)

Had Bowers been here, she would have been gone... very quickly.

I've thought that myself on many occasions.  Advocacy and attacking the opponent aren't the same thing about Chris, Matt Stoller, or Tim Tagaris.  
McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.
by PantsB on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:06:23 PM EST
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Bush has drive. You praising it? (none / 0)

See the logical disconnect with your argument?


by Regenman on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:17:20 PM EST
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Re: Bush has drive. You praising it? (none / 0)

Actually he doesn't. He's a lazy SOB. He never does his research, doesn't care what the law says, doesn't bother to do anything but nod, smile goofily, and exert executive privilege.

Unless you count "providing endless fodder for the late night comics", I don't see Bush as doing much work at all. He was a lazy bum as a baseball team owner, as a businessman, and as a Governor.


by Michigoose on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 12:20:37 AM EST
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Re: Sorry (none / 0)

Wow!  Another Troll rate from TD.

Guess who's back!

Cheers TD   ;-)


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 09:04:17 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 3)

If it's about praising what we admire in diarists . . .

. . . then I greatly admired Alegre's enthusiasm and commitment to Clinton.

However, the diarists I admire most frame strong arguments, then stick around to defend their claims.  This community may debate the extent to which Alegre did the former.  There's no question she abrogated her responsibility on the latter.


by deminva on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:47:28 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.25 / 8)

No its about recognizing a devisive selfish person who lied constantly, insulted many of the people her, and spit on the party every chance she got.  This diary is basically a slap in the face to all the people she insulted and lied about over the last few months.  This should be deleted immediately.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 06:09:09 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 2)

May I suggest you set an example of UNIFICATION?


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:25:22 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

I will take your suggestion under advisement.  

But today, I'm just applauding.  :)


by leisure on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:27:09 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.00 / 0)

Eh...my comment was to Purpel with....  Sorry Leisure, you comment posted before mine.


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:28:52 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

I'll take that under advisement.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:30:39 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.00 / 0)

You should.  A Dem nominee for President needs Dem voters to show up in November.  


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:35:08 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.66 / 6)

Agreed.  But if Alegra wants amnesty, she needs to say something herself, not via proxy.

She and TD, did a bit of damage, and so did other folks on the other side.  I won't forgive them either, until they show up themselves, and say they are STILL in the Dem party.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:38:38 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 2)

Damage was done on both sides of the same aisle. If you want a Dem president, I suggest you look to support, not antagonism.  Take Hillary's speech today as an example.


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:41:29 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

Yes, and the A**holes on both sides, particularly the LOUD ones, need to own up.  This is exactly the point I made in the post you responded to.

I think that she does owe an apology for some of her excesses.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:46:53 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.00 / 0)

Once again, same aisle, differnts sides.  Who's an "A**hole"?  JJ, jr., Brazile, Bill, Rendell, Kos (well, yeah!) Taylor Marsh?  All on the same aisle.  


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:57:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Denny, (none / 0)

Did you hear about the 'teeth' post kos made only the latest in a series of idiocies...


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:59:47 PM EST
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Re: Denny, (none / 0)

And did you see how he got pounded by the dkos community for that idiotic post?

The dkos community soundly recommended against that post in drmonkey's and JeffLieber's posts -- not to mention the hailstorm of criticism in the comments on markos's post.

In the last year there have been approximately 50 diaries that got over 1000 recommends on daily kos.  drmonkey's diary asking markos to take down  the teeth post garnered 1419 recs. (JeffLieber's got 888 recs.)  That places it 6th on the list of highly recommended diaries at dkos in the last year.  So for Markos's lapse in judgment, he got tutored by the dkos community.  And no one got banned or put on probation.


by vbdietz on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 08:14:50 AM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

I'm done.  I've never liked hanging out at the top of diaries.  I'm gonna go muck about at the bottom.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:02:14 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

Thanks for the Troll rate TD.  Good to see you back!

Cheers  ;-)


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 09:02:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

And another one from Skunk (none / 0)

Here, why don't you guys pound on this post, and leave my other comments alone.

We'll call it a sacraficial anode.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:08:27 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.00 / 0)

when markos does that at dailykos... you will see her supporters forgive his screeds... not before.

It's a two way street and the winner has to reach out...first. Like it warms by heart to see so many diaries by his supporters doing excatly that.


Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!
by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 06:24:29 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 2)

You know, I don't give a fig about dkos.  I post here.  I read here.  I'm responding to what's HERE at MyDD.

Take that issue up with them.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 06:36:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.00 / 0)

okay then... when you ask for forgivenss for all the nasty stuff you said... she may give hers ... not before.

man up?


Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!
by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:10:36 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

Okay, I'll man up.  Can you find any post that I've made that's mean or nasty?

I invite you to browse through my comment history.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:20:31 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.00 / 0)

you insistance to take a shot at her in a diary that is being positive - for starters right here.

the fight is over incase you missed that boat.


Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!
by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:32:36 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.50 / 2)

I did not take a shot at Alegre.  I stated my position, which is one that many other people on this site agree with:  Alegre needs to make amends...HERSELF!

If she wants to ease herself back into polite society, she owes this.

To the many people here at MyDD that she insulted.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:41:02 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.00 / 0)

ooo drop it already w/ you narcissistic holier than thou cry fest. get over it...


Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!
by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:56:47 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

Done.

Cheers  ;-)


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:58:42 PM EST
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Errrr (none / 0)

This is almost depressing.

Thanks Skunk.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:04:02 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

You don't need her to make amends.

You just need her to vote for Obama.

Why should she care if YOU personally "forgive" her or not? I see no reason she should cater to the whims of random bloggers who think their umbrage counts for more than a Democratic win.

I would weep for the Democrats having to put up with these kinds of people in their party, except that I think a number of the leaders feel the same way. Which is why the Dems keep losing despite having the better candidates.


by Michigoose on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 12:26:30 AM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 10)

agreed.  And no standing ovation until and unless she stands up and supports the Democratic nominee.

I would be on Hillary's team today if she were the nominee.


It's all about McCain/Bush now...
by thereisnospoon on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:29:30 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 7)

Exactly.

I've been a Hillary supporter for years (live in NY), and though I ended up in Obama's camp, I would have voted for her in a heartbeat if she were the nominee.

And I had warm back-and-forths with Alegre, back when she was on DK. But my last interaction with her here was when she said, "Stay tuned!" as she eagerly awaited the Michelle Obama "whitey" video.

I'm all for unity, but it would be nice to hear her say that she's going to follow Hillary's wishes and fight for Obama over McCain.


by JoeW on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:42:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

"Stay tuned'" eh? (none / 0)

Hmmmmm.  That puts a whole new slant on it, doesn't it?


by ReillyDiefenbach on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:23:38 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.00 / 0)

My hope is she will come around and offering hillary VP spot will help not only those wounds but make our party unbeatble.

she showed courage for her candidate of choice and no less than many that have stood by and shown the same for obama.


Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!
by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 06:21:41 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

And the idea that we'd be looking towards 2012 once Obama was named the nominee. Utter nonsense and blind, fanatical devotion to a person rather than the ideal or the party.

I can't go along with praising her at all. I think she's destructive. Just my opinion....I could be wrong, and admit to often being so.


by mikeplugh on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 04:25:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]

On Alegre (2.00 / 9)

I'm a diehard Obama supporter.

I have no problem with her positive diaries about Hillary Clinton.

And I have on problem with her negative diaries about Obama!

It's politics, folks! She was a committed supporter. She could bash Obama til the cows come home, but she's still a Democrat. It's a primary.

We all need to get over the hate and come together. I applaud Alegre's efforts on behalf of Hillary Clinton - positive AND negative. It's a democracy!


by Lance Bryce on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 03:50:53 PM EST

Re: On Alegre (none / 0)

good for you.  nice post.


by slynch on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 12:08:40 AM EST
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There's nothing wrong with positivity, (1.90 / 22)

but right wing smears will never be welcome against Democrats, no matter the source. Alegre's attempts to use Wright, Ayers, Rezko, and most recently, bigots like Harriet Christian as ammunition against Barack Obama were unwelcome then, and they are unwelcome now. However, the positive aspects of her work will always be welcome.


should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?
by Firewall on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 03:53:34 PM EST

Re: There's nothing wrong with positivity, (2.00 / 2)

Ahhh - I understand where you're coming from, but it's time to forgive that stuff. People get carried away during campaigns. And we call them out during hte campaign for getting carried away.

But the campaign is over. Time to forgive and forget.


by Lance Bryce on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 03:56:39 PM EST
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Re: There's nothing wrong with positivity, (1.50 / 2)

You're right; it's time to move on. As Hillary said, this election is too important to hold grudges.


should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?
by Firewall on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:08:01 PM EST
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Re: There's nothing wrong with positivity, (2.00 / 1)

But it's hard to applaud until we hear from  Alegre herself that she will drop the RW smears and support the Democratic candidate.


by JoeW on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:43:51 PM EST
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Re: There's nothing wrong with positivity, (1.66 / 3)

Completely agree. If she's going to come back to advocate for McCain or continue to pray for Obama's downfall, I'd rather she stick with the racists at No Quarter, where she's been cross-posting for the last few months.


should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?
by Firewall on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:54:33 PM EST
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Re: There's nothing wrong with positivity, (none / 0)

It will be easier to forget once it has stopped. However apparently it is still going on, elsewhere...
by french imp on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 03:00:49 AM EST
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Re: There's nothing wrong with positivity, (none / 0)

Exactly.  I am not too big on applauding someone for using right wing talking points and smears against Democrats.  


by rf7777 on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:47:29 PM EST
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Re: There's nothing wrong with positivity, (none / 0)

What about Obama & his supporter's use of Right Wing Talking points about Hillary & Bill?


by gaf on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 02:46:01 AM EST
[ Parent ]

come up short? (1.35 / 14)

More people voted for Clinton.  It was the DNC's ethics that came up short.


by Teacher1956 on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 03:55:25 PM EST

Time to move on and come together. (none / 0)


by 0td on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:00:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Time to move on and come together. (2.00 / 1)

your TR abuse has been reported


by zerosumgame on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 10:46:30 PM EST
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Re: come up short? (2.00 / 2)

Yes. How silly of them not to acknowledge the power of uncontested candidacies!


by BlueinColorado on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:11:35 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 10)

Bravo! There's no candidate that wouldn't love to have Alegre as a supporter. You just don't find people more enthusiastic and motivated.


by LakersFan on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 03:57:39 PM EST

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

Enthusiasm and motivation do not justify anything. Actually sometimes too much enthusiasm and motivation leads to disaster.
by french imp on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 03:04:44 AM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

If a candidate can't handle defending their close associations with bomb-throwing pastors and criminals, then they have no business running for President.

Obama seems to have weathered these storms, which will only make him stronger in the GE.

As long as her "ammunition" was truthful, then I'd say that it was all part of the essential vetting process, and she should be thanked for her contributions.


by leisure on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 03:59:37 PM EST

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 11)

Unfortunately a lot of it wasn't truthful, and she knew it, but choose to say it anyway.


by interestedbystander on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:03:31 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.90 / 11)

Exactly. There were numerous times when she stated flat out lies -- like implying Obama had a dubious record with women's rights -- that had been debunked months ago. That kind of stuff was never, will never, be welcome.


should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?
by Firewall on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:06:55 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

I never noticed her being factually incorrect.  

You may disagree with many of her opinions, conclusions, and characterizations, but that's to be expected.


by leisure on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:10:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

Then you clearly didn't read the comments to her diaries, where numerous posters calmly pointed out numerous factual errors and some nasty unfounded slurs, for which they would either be ignored, or solicit the standard response "WTF is wrong with you".  But I'm pretty sure you actually know this - I'm guessing this is some sort of ground laying for alegre's return, due to popular demand from NQ gang.  By the way, do you post at NQ?


by interestedbystander on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:33:07 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

I've never been to No Quarter, and I'm not familiar with the comments you're mentioning.

Of course, I haven't read every diary written by Alegre, or every comment attached, so my post today is about my impressions of what I have read.


by leisure on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:38:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 2)

Maybe you should inform yourself a little better before writing a diary about someone.  Am I the only one finding this all a bit weird?


by interestedbystander on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:43:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

What, that I'm impressed with someone after reading dozens of their inspiring diaries on MyDD?

You've kindly invited to leave also, please.  :)


by leisure on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:46:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

So ignorance is your excuse? (none / 0)

You don't know how to do research on the internet?

Weird standard, you ask that little from your kids?


by Regenman on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:07:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

I'm right there with you.  I'm thinking that this is the first step in reintegrating Alegra back into the general population.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:15:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

Do you know why you didn't hear about "communist law firms" and "shady Arkansas land deals" and "Kazakhstani business men who funded the Clinton Library"?  How about suspicious pardons of the FALN, Weather Underground and Marc Rich?  Because Obama chose not to bring them up.  

Now, this election could have gotten much, much more bloody.  Thankfully, one candidate appealed to his better nature and we never saw this escalate.


by zadura on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 12:27:43 PM EST
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Alegre (2.00 / 1)

They are praising you at DKos also

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6 /7/111237/0187/272/531613


by gunowningliberal on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:01:33 PM EST

Re: Alegre (2.00 / 1)

Interesting - seems a little coordinated, don't you think.  I hope leisure isn't alegre's sockpuppet.


by interestedbystander on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:06:58 PM EST
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Re: Alegre (2.00 / 5)

Be gone, negativity.

I came here hoping to read something from Alegre, and when I couldn't find anything, I decided to write something myself.

That's it.


by leisure on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:11:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Alegre (none / 0)

http://hillarysbloggers.soapblox.net/

Go to her blog and praise her there.  


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 06:16:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Hat tip (2.00 / 5)

to Alegre.

And, twice to Senator Clinton who again today demonstrated the essence of her character.


by UrbanRedneck on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:02:37 PM EST

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.75 / 8)

Alegre will not vote for the Democratic nominee in November. I do not find that worthy of praise.


www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com
by LandStander on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:06:40 PM EST

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 4)

Unless she releases her delegates and concedes this thing, there's still a chance for her to step in and rescue our sorry-ass party when BO self-destructs... hopefully before our convention in August.

by: Alegre @ Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 23:49:48 PM CDT

I'm hoping that's just blowing off some steam. It would be great to have someone like Alegre working for an Obama victory, so maybe she'll come back with a renewed sense of Democratic purpose.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:27:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.60 / 5)

Before she abandoned this site, several of us asked her over about two weeks whether or not she'd support the nominee, and we were met with silence and drive-by troll ratings. Until she provides evidence to the contrary (whether here or at HV), it's not an unfair assumption to guess that she's not going to support Obama at all. Certainly not with daily (or weekly) diaries about the necessity of electing him over McCain.

I would be more than happy to be proven wrong, though. If linfar and Taylor Marsh are supporting O, anything's possible!


should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?
by Firewall on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:31:29 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

Yes. Where has she gone to ? where did she post the above ? Is she striking against MyDD too now ?


by Benjaminomeara on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:33:11 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

http://hillarysbloggers.soapblox.net/sho wComment.do;jsessionid=5991516AF1D662140 738E5B3E979BFD0?commentId=573


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:51:44 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 3)

I think she'll come around. I'm not on the losing end of this one, so it's easy for me to state how people should react. I can't imagine all these advocates who were so passionate about issues like healthcare will just relegate themselves to the sidelines for an entire election.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:33:30 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.66 / 3)

Good point. Say what you will about Obama's healthcare plan, it'll cover more people than McCain's.


should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?
by Firewall on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:52:31 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (1.66 / 3)

I would prefer that she stays away, to be honest.  The personal jabs, inuendo, and all the bullshit that came along with Allegre and TD don't have any place in the Presidential campaign.  I cringe at the thought of her writing one of those way over the top crapfest diaries she specialized in about Obama.  We mocked those diaries because they were propaganda.  I won't cheer her now for the doing the same thing for Obama.  They are better off at hillaryis44, taylor marsh's swamp or the camp crazy that flowbee johnson.  That way they can all sit around and tell each other how great they all are.  This place is better off without her.


Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!
by RockvilleLiberal2 on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:51:07 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

troll rate me for lack o' spellchecker...


Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!
by RockvilleLiberal2 on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:51:47 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

I agree. That kind of propaganda is contrary to the philosophy of Obama's candidacy.
by french imp on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 03:16:50 AM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

Incidentally, this is really stupid. Even if she releases her delegates, concedes and campaigns actively for Barack as she is going to, well if ever something happened to him or his candidacy, it is OBVIOUS she would be the second choice to take over right off the bat regardless.
On the other hand, if she or her supporters look as if they are waiting for that, they would make the switch harder if ever something catastrophic happened.
In the end, promising disunity hurts everybody and is beyond short-sighted to go in the realm of plain dumb
by Benjaminomeara on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:32:23 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 2)

rescue our sorry-ass party

Now that's some class, there.


by BlueinColorado on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:13:38 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

She BLOGGED!  Other than blogging where is the evidence of her working for Hillary.  Pictures of her canvassing, etc.  


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 06:17:09 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 5)

I don't.  I'm sorry, but I can condone that type of behaviour...on either side.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:06:59 PM EST

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

Oops.  "can't condone"


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:07:30 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

CLAP! CLAP! CLAP!

I disagreed with many of her points but she was always respectful and stayed away from the more ridiculous smears.

I hope she comes back to MyDD.

Rec'd.


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:07:09 PM EST

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 13)

Respectful? So you enjoyed being called a "bully boy" constantly? Hell, I was even called a bully boy, and I'm a woman. I'm not trying to start shit with someone who isn't here to defend herself, but there were plenty of gracious, graceful Hillary bloggers who deserve acclaim over Alegre. Alegre's voice wasn't the kindest, it was the loudest.


John McCain hates terrorists, except the ones that hate women. Those are just swell.
by terra on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:11:53 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

I am no alegre fan but what went on in the sandbox that was her comments section was getting pretty ridiculous. I'm sure I've called alot of people alot of names this primary season and I hope they don't hold that against me. The fact that she was the loudest Hillary voice makes it easier to remember what she said or didn't say.

The primary wars are over. It's time to move on.

My 0.2 .


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:22:54 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

Unfortunately, a lot of the time it seemed like Alegre was deliberately trying to make it as hard as possible for her followers to "move on".  I respect her hard work for Clinton and her efforts to win the primary.  I do have a problem with her efforts to harm Obama in November.


by sneakers563 on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 06:00:44 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (none / 0)

Alegre was not respectful and did not stay away from ridiculous smears. She was a partisan hack who damaged her credibility in pusuit of Clinton's nomination at any costs. I understand the desire to get everone on board. But let's not rewrite history here.

Begin ridiculous flames.


by Rationalisto on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 12:35:16 AM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 2)

Not addressing the issues of primary politics...

I tend to think that keyboard jockeys, for whatever candidate, while important, tend to be far down on the list of people to put on a pedestal.

They are no Cesar Chavez, no Joanna Macy, no Tutu, no Ariyaratne, Paul VanAntwerp... They tend to not be the people physically on the lines every day, Witness for Peace, Peace Brigades, inner city leaders...

To me, the real heroes are those that undergo a transformation for the better, who put their bodies on the line, who actually physically do more then advocate for a politician.

It actually, is not hard to be a partisan, and if you have some facility with words you can be an inspirational one, but at the end of the day that is all you are.

I've tended to disagree with Alegre, but that is not here nor there. And I have no issue with other strong partisans holding their own up for adoration, that is what we do and it is valid. I do take exception to hyperbolic statements that elevate such people beyond their status, beyond people who reach out and make real physical connections and transformations.

I don't care if you are Alegre or Kos, unless you do something else, bloggers are just bloggers. People expressing their opinions rather than makeing the world a better place.

Cheers to Alegre for her beliefs, though I disagree with many of them we do hold common ground on others.


by notedgeways on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:07:52 PM EST

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 3)

If she comes here and apologizes for her sexist language, that would be great. Until then, there is no need to salute one blogger out of many, many others who carried Hillary's mantle in a SANE, PRODUCTIVE way.


John McCain hates terrorists, except the ones that hate women. Those are just swell.
by terra on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:10:44 PM EST

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

OMG.  You speak to me.  "Most of us have experienced the crushing angst of watching our favorite candidate come up short in the final tally.  For me, it was first Al Gore, then Howard Dean, then John Edwards, and now Hillary Clinton."
Al Gore; Al Gore; Al Gore.  Then Kerry; he was a Democrat--good enough for me.  Now?  I'm just perplexed.  I have 5 months to become un-perplexed.
Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:12:32 PM EST

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 1)

Oops.  To keep on thread, I support Alegre's efforts in her support of Hillary Clinton for President.


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:16:13 PM EST
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First Linfar and now we have Taylor Marsh (2.00 / 4)

Hopefully alegre joins us in beating down McSame.

I posted this somewhere else but I think it's important for people to read it. Taylor Marsh is not a crazy delusional fringe site run by a GOP troll. Taylor Marsh is a Democrat.I have been lurking over at her site for some time now and all I can say is that I'm impressed. She is proving (not that she had to) she is a Democrat and is putting the country before herself. By taking this stance readership and ad revenue will diminish which makes it all the more obvious where her priorities are.

Bravo Taylor Marsh! Bravo!

Here she is laying the smackdown in her comments section :

I had a slightly different take on Hillary's speech.

I love Hillary, but most of her speech today was dispassionate. She did what she needed to do politically, that's all. Her calls to support Obama were forced. The most passionate and genuine part of her speech was the bit about defying sexism and never giving up.

There are 9 weeks until the convention and the "presumptive nominee" does not have enough pledged delegates. I will do my part to be sure that Barack Obama's weaknesses are exposed between now and then.

I heard an opening in Hillary Clinton's speech for those of us who are NOT politicians to keep fighting in a way in which she cannot this summer. In fact, I think she's counting on it.

I am not a "fringe lunatic" as I have been called on my blog. I am not a person without a life. I am an American, a lifelong Democrat, a civil rights activist, a tax-paying citizen who believes that, as an American, it is my duty and my right to rebel, to stand up and fight for the best my country can deliver. That's what I heard Hillary say today, and that's what I intend to do. Between now and August 27, no rest for me.
TexasDarlin     | Homepage | 06.07.2008 - 3:07 pm | #

Stay classy TD. Rebel without a cause.

TexasDarlin | Homepage | 06.07.2008 - 3:07 pm | #

Knowing Hillary a bit, as a politician, you couldn't be more wrong. Your opinion is valuable, but your assessment would be deadly for Hillary if true. It is not true. Clinton will work tirelessly to put Obama in the White House in November. If it cannot be done it won't be because of her or supporters like me. I will not be part of any effort that leads to harming Hillary.

TaylorMarsh     | Homepage | 06.07.2008 - 3:10 pm | #

Ouch.


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:12:50 PM EST

Re: First Linfar and now we have Taylor Marsh (2.00 / 2)

Three cheers for Linfar, Taylor Marsh and hopefully alegre!


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:14:59 PM EST
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Re: First Linfar and now we have Taylor Marsh (none / 0)

Well, TexasDarlin's comment right there ensures I will never seriously read, or reply, to a single thing she says.  Instead, I'm just going to cut and paste that comment.

Frankly, that's enough to banned from this site, is it not?


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:38:11 PM EST
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Re: First Linfar and now we have Taylor Marsh (none / 0)

She wrote it on Marsh's blog.

Their is a difference between Larry Johnson, TexasDarlin, Hillis44 and alegre.


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:49:51 PM EST
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Re: First Linfar and now we have Taylor Marsh (none / 0)

Oh I know.  But TexasDarlin has been a GOP shill here, and is admitting she is actively working against the Democratic nominee for president.  Nothing she says should be posted here.  Period.


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:57:10 PM EST
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Re: First Linfar and now we have Taylor Marsh (2.00 / 2)

T.D. also said this:

Comment by TexasDarlin | 2008-06-07 09:49:42
I didn't notice the nose thing but I did think he seemed high.
Just bein' honest    Posted on Noquarter in response to Obama Chicago rally


"In the primary you should vote with your heart, but in the general, you should vote with your head" Hillary's husband
by venician on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:47:26 PM EST
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Re: First Linfar and now we have Taylor Marsh (none / 0)

Taylor's PJ media article was insulting and I still will never understand her appeal, but as long as she isn't actively working against the nominee I am fine.  

Anyone like TexasDarlin or some of the other pieces of garbage commenting in Taylor's comments are not real democrats.  They have never been true democrats.  By voting or supporting McCain, they spit on the party, they spit on those of us who are members of the party and they spit on Hillary and her values.  Taylor herself said Hillary would be disgusted with these people.  


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 06:33:19 PM EST
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I concur. It was alegre, back in the day, (2.00 / 3)

who got me to take a sincere look at Hillary. I was disillusioned with Obama over the McClurkin incident. I started reading alegre's diaries and listening, really listening, to Hillary. The rest is history. Hillary became my candidate of choice and over time I just became so enamored with her and her message. My hat is tipped to alegre. She was always there to lift up us Hillary supporter's spirits on the down days. And for that I will always be grateful. She will be a fierce, fighting, and loyal supporter of Obama. I know, she has said she will support him, and she doesn't do anything half-hearted.


Obama supporter working to defeat McCain.
by Rumarhazzit on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:19:45 PM EST

LOL (1.50 / 10)

You don't need a thick skin at all when you smear people anonymously.

Just Gall.


by Is This Snark on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:24:30 PM EST

TR ha! (1.50 / 2)

Does anyone really think she would have been so obnoxious and toxic had she been putting her name on the stuff?


by Is This Snark on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:30:10 PM EST
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Re: TR ha!-Oh Honey, I'm sure you can read (2.00 / 1)

it says 0 HIDE, that doesn't deserved to be seen and even cheered for tr by fellow B O supporters.


by LindaSFNM on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:33:29 PM EST
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Re: TR ha!-Oh Honey, I'm sure you can read (none / 0)

Linda, you have a "unique" attitude.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:21:48 PM EST
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smear anon? (2.00 / 1)

like you do?


Washington Woman
theocracywatch.org
EENR Blog
by kevin22262 on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:37:17 PM EST
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Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 3)

Thank you.  I'm happy I checked in.  

I was thinking of Alegre as I was listening to Hillary's fantastic speech and crying my eyes out, as the camera was panning around to supporters all doing the same thing, Mary Steenburgen, and countless other faces.  Ted Dansen being very supportive.  All having worked so hard for HIllary.

Virtual hug to you Alegre.  Thank you for such great work and effort.

ciaO!


by LindaSFNM on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:24:47 PM EST

With malice toward none (2.00 / 3)

With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.

Time to join together.


"Once in a while you get shown the light In the strangest of places if you look at it right"
by molly bloom on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:25:17 PM EST

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 2)

This should really be cross-posted over at NoQuarter, don't you think?


by Addison on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:29:18 PM EST

Re: Standing Ovation for Alegre (2.00 / 4)

Nothing should be posted at Noquarter. EVER. This website is a disagrace to the Democratic party.


by Benjaminomeara on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:33:59 PM EST
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Indeed... (2.00 / 6)

...which is why this disqualifies Alegre from getting much respect.

Do people not know she posts there, or what?


by Addison on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:46:27 PM EST
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